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Man sentenced at Warrington Crown Court

10:30am Monday 15th March 2010


A TEENAGER with a history of violence will spend eight months behind bars after punching a dog-walking boy in the face and taking his phone.

Edward Williams, aged 18, was sentenced at Warrington Crown Court on Friday after he attacked a youth, robbing his phone and searching him for money on October 4.

Victim Ryan Bastow had returned home after a party when he decided to walk his dog, the court heard.

Williams, of Lewis Avenue, Dallam approached Mr Bastow and asked him for a cigarette. Receiving an answer of ‘no’, the defendant, who was 17 at the time of the robbery, became aggressive and pushed Mr Bastow into a parked car, according to prosecution barrister Lewis Jones.

He then punched his victim in the face and stole his phone before running off. Williams, who has three previous convictions for assault with the first coming aged just 14, was chased by the victim’s father and was later arrested at his home address in Dallam.

When sentencing Williams to 16 months in a youth offenders institution, Judge David Hale said: “You have a general yobbishness about you and this was a yobbish, violent and totally unecessary attack. A person is entitled to walk home without that fear of attack.”


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chumhill, Warrington says...
1:02pm Mon 15 Mar 10

Its a shame people like this exist.

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Pooreastender, Woolston says...
5:24pm Mon 15 Mar 10

6 months with a record of violent offences! Pathetic. No wonder this country is going down the pan!

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mel-will1, dallam says...
5:53pm Mon 15 Mar 10

Pooreastender wrote:
6 months with a record of violent offences! Pathetic. No wonder this country is going down the pan!
half of 16 is 8 months,the guardian got it wrong,there are some peaple who do a lot worse and recieve far less a sentence,yes i agree he deserved a small custodial sentence because what he did was wrong,but 16 month was excessive, from edwards mother.

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direwire, Diretown says...
9:11pm Mon 15 Mar 10

assualt & robbery, jail is too good for scrotes like this

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LJ, Westbrook says...
10:56am Tue 16 Mar 10

mel-will1 wrote:
Pooreastender wrote: 6 months with a record of violent offences! Pathetic. No wonder this country is going down the pan!
half of 16 is 8 months,the guardian got it wrong,there are some peaple who do a lot worse and recieve far less a sentence,yes i agree he deserved a small custodial sentence because what he did was wrong,but 16 month was excessive, from edwards mother.
He should have been sent down for longer with his record of violent offences. This may come as a surprise to you, but, most people don't want idiots like this terrorising anyone who walks the streets. Hopefully he'll learn to understand this while he's in prison, cos it looks like he's never been taught this at home!

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mel-will1, dallam says...
12:55pm Tue 16 Mar 10

LJ wrote:
mel-will1 wrote:
Pooreastender wrote: 6 months with a record of violent offences! Pathetic. No wonder this country is going down the pan!
half of 16 is 8 months,the guardian got it wrong,there are some peaple who do a lot worse and recieve far less a sentence,yes i agree he deserved a small custodial sentence because what he did was wrong,but 16 month was excessive, from edwards mother.
He should have been sent down for longer with his record of violent offences. This may come as a surprise to you, but, most people don't want idiots like this terrorising anyone who walks the streets. Hopefully he'll learn to understand this while he's in prison, cos it looks like he's never been taught this at home!
well thank god peaple like you are not on jury service he was taught well at home, its the system thats stinks.

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LJ, Westbrook says...
1:16pm Tue 16 Mar 10

mel-will1 wrote:
LJ wrote:
mel-will1 wrote:
Pooreastender wrote: 6 months with a record of violent offences! Pathetic. No wonder this country is going down the pan!
half of 16 is 8 months,the guardian got it wrong,there are some peaple who do a lot worse and recieve far less a sentence,yes i agree he deserved a small custodial sentence because what he did was wrong,but 16 month was excessive, from edwards mother.
He should have been sent down for longer with his record of violent offences. This may come as a surprise to you, but, most people don't want idiots like this terrorising anyone who walks the streets. Hopefully he'll learn to understand this while he's in prison, cos it looks like he's never been taught this at home!
well thank god peaple like you are not on jury service he was taught well at home, its the system thats stinks.
Well normally I would agree that the system stinks, but on this occasion the judge got it right.

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direwire, Diretown says...
7:24pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Taught well at home but yet he chooses to live a life of violence and crime, hmmmm I was taught well too but decided to knuckle down and get a job and show respect for for people

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grey_man, Appleton says...
7:29am Wed 17 Mar 10

I can understand where this yob's mum is coming from in trying to stick up for her son, but she really does need to see that he needs putting away to get him away from people. Hopefully she can help him behave like a normal human being in future.

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warrington lass!, wigan says...
12:08pm Wed 17 Mar 10

I don't know 1 kid that has been taught well at home to pull a stunt like this or his past convictions so that's a load of crap!!!!! I think you will find most children who are 'taught well' keep their heads down and do well in life i.e have a job or are at college! Just another yob that can't afford cigarettes so decides to take it out on a innocent person!

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white x, warrington says...
6:07pm Thu 18 Mar 10

none of you know edward so none of you have the right to comment about him or his mother he has been brought up right and his mother is a wonderfull person and i dont know a better person and im sure you have all done things you regret doing and things that people would find wrong he knows what he did was wrong which is why he has took it on the chin we dont need people like yourselves who are stuck up there own arses commenting so stop doing it .

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mitchell t, orford says...
6:40pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I think you will find none of you know edward, he is not a yob, yeh he has done a daft thing, but doesnt most kids of his age, in fact most at edwards age are murdering people. You may not think it of what he has done, but he has a heart of gold, and is such a nice person. And to the stupid cow that said its a load of crap he got taught well at home, well what the hell do you know???? Yes he did get brought up very well in a really nice home. With amazing parents, so do one the lot of you!!!!

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LJ, Westbrook says...
8:58pm Thu 18 Mar 10

mitchell t wrote:
I think you will find none of you know edward, he is not a yob, yeh he has done a daft thing, but doesnt most kids of his age, in fact most at edwards age are murdering people. You may not think it of what he has done, but he has a heart of gold, and is such a nice person. And to the stupid cow that said its a load of crap he got taught well at home, well what the hell do you know???? Yes he did get brought up very well in a really nice home. With amazing parents, so do one the lot of you!!!!
So are we to be grateful that he's not murdered someone?

If he was 'taught well' at home, how come he has a history of violence?

Perhaps a stint in prison may fill the gaps in his 'home education' and prevent him from murdering someone.

If it had been Edward who had been attacked while he was walking the dog you'd have a different attitude.

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grey_man, Appleton says...
7:31am Fri 19 Mar 10

These comments always appear saying that nobody has a right to judge anybody else. Well, you know what, we actually do. I'd be ashamed to my core if he was my son or even if I knew him, not defending him on here. He hasn't 'got a heart of gold', he's not 'a nice person', and he hasn't done 'something daft'. He's where he belongs and the longer he stays there, the better for the rest of us.

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LJ, Westbrook says...
9:10am Fri 19 Mar 10

Well said grey man!

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mitchell t, orford says...
10:31am Fri 19 Mar 10

Like i said what hell do you all know???? Yes he shouldnt of done what he has done, but he has, and im sure he will learn from this. Yes he should do his time for this, and he is, he doesnt deserve a longer sentance at all, theres people out there that do a lot worse and do less time, and to the grey haired man, yes he does have a heart of gold, you know nothing. And yes if he was the lad that got attacked i probably would have a different attitude, yes a lad should be able to go out and walk his dog without getting attacked, but come on, were in year 2010, its like when people get raped, yeh its not there fault, but they can prevent things like this from happening, not going out alone! Yes i know your thinking why should we have to stay in because of some people out there, but like i said were in year 2010 and theres a lot worse out there, murderers, rapists etc. I am not condoning what he has done, but i will say what kind of person he is, yes he has done a bad thing, but that does not make him a bad person. He still has an amazing personality!!!!!!!!!

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grey_man, Appleton says...
11:04am Fri 19 Mar 10

What planet are you on? So this lad was asking for it by going out alone was he? This thug clearly is a bad person, because good people do not do the things he has done. With people like you around him I doubt very much he is ever going to learn anything about the difference between right and wrong. 'Most kids of his aage' as you put it aren't thieves and they're not violent like he is. Stop making excuses for the little scrote.

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LJ, Westbrook says...
11:19am Fri 19 Mar 10

Oh my god, if ever a judge made a good decision, it was this one.

Mitchell t - I think its time for you to re-**** your life, instead of telling decent people what to do and where to go and resorting to the bullying tactics which are obviously prevalent within your circle.

One thing I taught my kids is, don't go throwing your weight around cos there's always someone out there bigger than you!

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jillmacozz, warrington says...
11:33am Fri 19 Mar 10

grey_man wrote:
What planet are you on? So this lad was asking for it by going out alone was he? This thug clearly is a bad person, because good people do not do the things he has done. With people like you around him I doubt very much he is ever going to learn anything about the difference between right and wrong. 'Most kids of his aage' as you put it aren't thieves and they're not violent like he is. Stop making excuses for the little scrote.
iIm sorry and maybe this isnt my place but I do know Ed and he is everything his mum says, whats making me angry is the way your now VERBALLY ATTACKING Mel does that make it any better? As a mum of an 18 year old its different and difficult now but Unconditional is a mothers word not Excuses!!!!!!!

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grey_man, Appleton says...
1:27pm Fri 19 Mar 10

As I said right at the start, I hope his mum gets him on the straight and narrow again. But he's not everything his mum says is he? He is a danger to normal people just out living their lives and if he's not stopped he will get worse. So people coming on here saying that he's a lovely lad, just simply isn't true. He is where he belongs. Hopefully he'll learn, but this idea that he's just doing anything that is typical of 18 year olds is simply not true and none of you are helping him or anybody else by telling hima anything but the unvarnished truth. He's a thug that needs to be kept away from normal people for a while.

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direwire, Diretown says...
4:30pm Fri 19 Mar 10

3 convictions for assualt starting at the age of 14, should of been put away sooner.

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mitchell t, orford says...
7:03pm Fri 19 Mar 10

He has chose the wrong path a few times but however if people treat him like a thug and speak badly like you people that dont know him are, it will make him feel like there is no point getting back on the right track. As the saying goes 'poke a dog with a stick, it will eventually bite'. All you lot speaking bad of him are the ones with the stick!!!!! And for the comment about him not being able to afford cigarettes, how wrong are you, he has never gone without anything he needs. You shouldnt leave any comments if you have nothing constructive to say, and stop poking him with your sticks.

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local man, cinnamon brow says...
10:47pm Fri 19 Mar 10

I think a few of Edwards mates and family are missing the point. being friendly to them but assaulting strangers / people he disagrees with does not make him a decent lad. The young lad out walking his dog has every right to do so and to expect to be safe. If Edward cant be trusted to be free in society in case someone else "asks for it" by going out alone he needs locking up. Im afraid unless he learns the truth he will spend a lot of his life behind bars. If you are true friends you need to explain things to him and get him to understand not try and make out it was someone else's fault or that its something all kids do. As to the comment that "most" teens are out murdering where on earth do you get that idea ? And assault and rape victims asking for it ? Lets hope it never happens to someone close to you.

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grey_man, Appleton says...
11:40pm Fri 19 Mar 10

mitchell t

Don't you think it would be better to tell him that if he doesn't want people to stop thinking of him as a thug, he needs to stop behaving like one first? And if he's never gone without, what the hell is he doing mugging and assaulting somebody just out walking a dog?

So my constructive comment is this: he needs to accept that he has behaved like a thug, you all have to tell him it in no uncertain terms, no excuses, no 'he loves his mum'. Then he needs to get a job, calm down and accept that other people are free to walk around without the threat that some complete arsehole is going to attack them.

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bigkahuna0206, Orford says...
1:12am Sat 20 Mar 10

Reading this thread it beggars belief that the family and friends can defend the indefensible. As for "there are worse out there i.e. murderers and rapists" they tend to have a long criminal record dating back to their youth so I suggest you stop making excuses and help to protect the public by doing your bit and educating your son.

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Lupine54, Warrington says...
11:32am Sat 20 Mar 10

To offer a counter view of other youngsters in the town, I'd just like to let you know that a bunch of them at Warrington youth club have volunteered to do a sponsored 'bleep test' for Sport Relief on the evening of Tuesday 23rd March. Given that "most of them at that age are murdering people", I think they are to be commended.
For those of you that don't know what a bleep test is, it currently masquerades as a multi stage fitness test. However it's origins are much darker than that, it was invented by the Gestapo as the final card they played when torturing people for information, essentially it is 20metre shuttle runs until you start to feel tired, then just after you feel tired you carry on and do some more until you start to feel sick, then just after you feel sick you carry on and do some more until you lose any sensation in your body and start feeling dizzy, then sometime after that stage you are told by a PE teacher, whose family tree can be traced back to senior Gestapo members, that you are no longer keeping up with the bleeps (that get increasingly close together as the test continues) and you have to stop. So lots of running and far more effort than a mere mile run at your own pace! All this by me with my creaky old knees, and a bunch of youngsters who have bravely opted to put down their playstation controls, turn off the TV, put their mp3 players away, go more than 5minutes without using their phones and somehow try to take on this challenge fuelled only by a sparse diet of sweets, chocolate, chips and pizza. (Needed a break there to wipe away the tear from my glass eye). Please support this occurence of the 'youth of today' bucking some stereotypes about them by being active and selfless at the same time, and not assaulting or murdering anyone.

To make a secure online donation, click on the link below:

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As always with these things any amount of money is a billion times better than nothing. The money you give will help people living incredibly tough lives both at home in the UK and across the world's poorest countries. Thank you for all your
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