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A CROSS-DRESSER mistaken for a stalker will be scarred for life after his nose was cut and broken during an assault.
It was the first time the man had ventured out of his home in women's clothes.
Lee Carney, aged 26, of Grizedale Avenue, in Orford, attacked the man after wrongly assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend.
Warrington Crown Court heard on Monday how the victim had worn women's clothing at home, mainly at weekends, for many years.
But on March 3 this year the transvestite went for a walk wearing a black blouse, red skirt and black tights underneath a man's jacket, along with a short black wig, man's shoes and an umbrella.
Caroline Harris, prosecuting, said he was noticed while walking along Poplars Avenue.
She said: "He feared he was spotted, so he freaked out and started to run."
Following a distressed phone call from his girlfriend, Carney challenged the cross-dresser, asking him, Why have you followed my girlfriend?' before chasing after him, along with a second man who blocked his path.
Carney's friend struck the man in the face with a wooden object and the man fell to the ground. The attackers kicked him in the ribs and head, knocking him back down when he got to his feet. Eventually he managed to get to a doorway where he was helped by residents.
Hospitalised with fractures to his nose and cheekbone, the attack has left the man too frightened to leave his home, on a soft food diet and reliant on sleeping tablets. He is on a waiting list for psychological therapy.
However, he told police: "I do not believe that the two males attacked me because of the way I was dressed."
And Michael Davies, defending, said that his client had not realised the man was wearing women's clothing, but that when he ran off it seemed to reinforce the suspicion' that he was stalking his girlfriend.
He said: "This is not a homophobic attack or about cross-dressing or beating people up because they seem part of a different group."
Carney, who had two previous convictions for common assault in 2003, pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
Sentencing him to 80 hours unpaid work, Judge David Hale said: "Whatever the background there was no excuse for hitting the man without talking to him first."
Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
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Quattro, says...
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Quattro, says...
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Quattro, says...
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Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:Show me where I said that.
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:Show me where I said that.
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:Show me where I said that.
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:Show me where I said that.
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:Show me where I said that.
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Quattro, says...
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Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones wrote:The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones wrote:The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones wrote:The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones wrote:The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Mike Jones wrote:The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07
craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07
craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07
craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07
craig brown, orford says...
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Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Pete wrote:can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07
Marisa, says...
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Marisa, says...
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Marisa, says...
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Marisa, says...
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mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07
mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07
mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07
mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07
mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07
Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07
Birdy wrote:well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid workThe problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07
Pete wrote:What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07
Pete wrote:What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07
Pete wrote:What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07
Pete wrote:What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07
Pete wrote:What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Sue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07
John Martin wrote:Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.
Pete wrote:Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiotSue wrote:Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07
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sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07
sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07
sue, Orford says...
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Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07
Quattro wrote:That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
Snow Queen, Hull says...
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Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
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Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07
I am speechless. So no homophobia then.