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Transvestite beaten in ‘stalker’ mix-up

6:59am Friday 6th July 2007

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A CROSS-DRESSER mistaken for a stalker will be scarred for life after his nose was cut and broken during an assault.

It was the first time the man had ventured out of his home in women's clothes.

Lee Carney, aged 26, of Grizedale Avenue, in Orford, attacked the man after wrongly assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend.

Warrington Crown Court heard on Monday how the victim had worn women's clothing at home, mainly at weekends, for many years.

But on March 3 this year the transvestite went for a walk wearing a black blouse, red skirt and black tights underneath a man's jacket, along with a short black wig, man's shoes and an umbrella.

Caroline Harris, prosecuting, said he was noticed while walking along Poplars Avenue.

She said: "He feared he was spotted, so he freaked out and started to run."

Following a distressed phone call from his girlfriend, Carney challenged the cross-dresser, asking him, Why have you followed my girlfriend?' before chasing after him, along with a second man who blocked his path.

Carney's friend struck the man in the face with a wooden object and the man fell to the ground. The attackers kicked him in the ribs and head, knocking him back down when he got to his feet. Eventually he managed to get to a doorway where he was helped by residents.

Hospitalised with fractures to his nose and cheekbone, the attack has left the man too frightened to leave his home, on a soft food diet and reliant on sleeping tablets. He is on a waiting list for psychological therapy.

However, he told police: "I do not believe that the two males attacked me because of the way I was dressed."

And Michael Davies, defending, said that his client had not realised the man was wearing women's clothing, but that when he ran off it seemed to reinforce the suspicion' that he was stalking his girlfriend.

He said: "This is not a homophobic attack or about cross-dressing or beating people up because they seem part of a different group."

Carney, who had two previous convictions for common assault in 2003, pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

Sentencing him to 80 hours unpaid work, Judge David Hale said: "Whatever the background there was no excuse for hitting the man without talking to him first."


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Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07

"assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend."

I am speechless. So no homophobia then.

Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07

"assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend."

I am speechless. So no homophobia then.

Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07

"assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend."

I am speechless. So no homophobia then.

Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07

"assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend."

I am speechless. So no homophobia then.

Quattro, says...
7:20am Fri 6 Jul 07

"assuming the cross-dresser was following his girlfriend."

I am speechless. So no homophobia then.

Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07

So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work

Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07

So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work

Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07

So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work

Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07

So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work

Mike Jones, Warrington says...
8:27am Fri 6 Jul 07

So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work

Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07

The unpaid work should involve picking litter in the centre of Warrington while dressed in a nice little skirt and blouse

Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07

The unpaid work should involve picking litter in the centre of Warrington while dressed in a nice little skirt and blouse

Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07

The unpaid work should involve picking litter in the centre of Warrington while dressed in a nice little skirt and blouse

Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07

The unpaid work should involve picking litter in the centre of Warrington while dressed in a nice little skirt and blouse

Quattro, says...
9:07am Fri 6 Jul 07

The unpaid work should involve picking litter in the centre of Warrington while dressed in a nice little skirt and blouse

Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07

So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!

Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07

So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!

Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07

So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!

Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07

So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!

Pete, Warrignton says...
12:51pm Fri 6 Jul 07

So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!

Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.

Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.

Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.

Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.

Quattro, says...
12:57pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.

Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Show me where I said that.

I said he was drawing unnecessary attention to himself in a rough area.

Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Show me where I said that.

I said he was drawing unnecessary attention to himself in a rough area.

Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Show me where I said that.

I said he was drawing unnecessary attention to himself in a rough area.

Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Show me where I said that.

I said he was drawing unnecessary attention to himself in a rough area.

Pete, says...
2:03pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
So he was asking for it was he? Just like when a woman gets raped, I suppose.
Show me where I said that.

I said he was drawing unnecessary attention to himself in a rough area.

Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07

"Show me where I said that."


You seemed to be blaming him for what happened.


Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07

"Show me where I said that."


You seemed to be blaming him for what happened.


Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07

"Show me where I said that."


You seemed to be blaming him for what happened.


Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07

"Show me where I said that."


You seemed to be blaming him for what happened.


Quattro, says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 07

"Show me where I said that."


You seemed to be blaming him for what happened.


Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Mike Jones wrote:
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Mike Jones wrote:
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Mike Jones wrote:
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Mike Jones wrote:
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:12pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Mike Jones wrote:
So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!

Lost my train of thought reading it sorry.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!

Lost my train of thought reading it sorry.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!

Lost my train of thought reading it sorry.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!

Lost my train of thought reading it sorry.

Birdy, Winwick says...
3:14pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
So I read it wrong and it was not the transvestite that was fined!

Lost my train of thought reading it sorry.

craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07

honest mistake on lee's behalf!!! dont go out dressed as a 'lady' if u dont want attention??? bit of common sense ah

craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07

honest mistake on lee's behalf!!! dont go out dressed as a 'lady' if u dont want attention??? bit of common sense ah

craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07

honest mistake on lee's behalf!!! dont go out dressed as a 'lady' if u dont want attention??? bit of common sense ah

craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07

honest mistake on lee's behalf!!! dont go out dressed as a 'lady' if u dont want attention??? bit of common sense ah

craig brown, orford says...
4:55pm Fri 6 Jul 07

honest mistake on lee's behalf!!! dont go out dressed as a 'lady' if u dont want attention??? bit of common sense ah

Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!

Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!

Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!

Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!

Orford, Orford says...
5:36pm Fri 6 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
can i just say orford is not all that tough that people think it is I have lived in orford for 2 years and only 2 stabbings have happened thats not bad!!!

Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07

What anyone involved in the incident may have been wearing, hardly seems pertinent. Most assaults aren't going to be reported, many reported aren't going to result in charges, and many charged will not be convicted. That said, being thrice-convicted of the same offense in less than five years is an impressive. It is incomprehensible to me that this man isn't spending a good many months behind bars.

Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07

What anyone involved in the incident may have been wearing, hardly seems pertinent. Most assaults aren't going to be reported, many reported aren't going to result in charges, and many charged will not be convicted. That said, being thrice-convicted of the same offense in less than five years is an impressive. It is incomprehensible to me that this man isn't spending a good many months behind bars.

Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07

What anyone involved in the incident may have been wearing, hardly seems pertinent. Most assaults aren't going to be reported, many reported aren't going to result in charges, and many charged will not be convicted. That said, being thrice-convicted of the same offense in less than five years is an impressive. It is incomprehensible to me that this man isn't spending a good many months behind bars.

Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07

What anyone involved in the incident may have been wearing, hardly seems pertinent. Most assaults aren't going to be reported, many reported aren't going to result in charges, and many charged will not be convicted. That said, being thrice-convicted of the same offense in less than five years is an impressive. It is incomprehensible to me that this man isn't spending a good many months behind bars.

Marisa, says...
9:29pm Fri 6 Jul 07

What anyone involved in the incident may have been wearing, hardly seems pertinent. Most assaults aren't going to be reported, many reported aren't going to result in charges, and many charged will not be convicted. That said, being thrice-convicted of the same offense in less than five years is an impressive. It is incomprehensible to me that this man isn't spending a good many months behind bars.

mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07

Well I see this has got the topic off to a tee, however I must point out that most people who have commented apart from myself, Quattro And Marisa just dont get it WHY was this MAn not sent to prison and why do people in orford seem that ONLY,(thats 2 reported) stabbings is ok, and the man was not drawing attention to himself this thug attacked him out of mindless violence - People look at the bigger picture and get with the program

mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07

Well I see this has got the topic off to a tee, however I must point out that most people who have commented apart from myself, Quattro And Marisa just dont get it WHY was this MAn not sent to prison and why do people in orford seem that ONLY,(thats 2 reported) stabbings is ok, and the man was not drawing attention to himself this thug attacked him out of mindless violence - People look at the bigger picture and get with the program

mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07

Well I see this has got the topic off to a tee, however I must point out that most people who have commented apart from myself, Quattro And Marisa just dont get it WHY was this MAn not sent to prison and why do people in orford seem that ONLY,(thats 2 reported) stabbings is ok, and the man was not drawing attention to himself this thug attacked him out of mindless violence - People look at the bigger picture and get with the program

mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07

Well I see this has got the topic off to a tee, however I must point out that most people who have commented apart from myself, Quattro And Marisa just dont get it WHY was this MAn not sent to prison and why do people in orford seem that ONLY,(thats 2 reported) stabbings is ok, and the man was not drawing attention to himself this thug attacked him out of mindless violence - People look at the bigger picture and get with the program

mike jones, Warrington says...
9:50am Tue 10 Jul 07

Well I see this has got the topic off to a tee, however I must point out that most people who have commented apart from myself, Quattro And Marisa just dont get it WHY was this MAn not sent to prison and why do people in orford seem that ONLY,(thats 2 reported) stabbings is ok, and the man was not drawing attention to himself this thug attacked him out of mindless violence - People look at the bigger picture and get with the program

Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07

I agree with Mike Jones, Why should we accept this type of thug - ORFORD we need to act now and sort this out, this poor man was attacked and his attacker has got off scott free - shame on you Orford people for your comments and worst of all shame on the court for only giving the thug unpaid work

Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07

I agree with Mike Jones, Why should we accept this type of thug - ORFORD we need to act now and sort this out, this poor man was attacked and his attacker has got off scott free - shame on you Orford people for your comments and worst of all shame on the court for only giving the thug unpaid work

Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07

I agree with Mike Jones, Why should we accept this type of thug - ORFORD we need to act now and sort this out, this poor man was attacked and his attacker has got off scott free - shame on you Orford people for your comments and worst of all shame on the court for only giving the thug unpaid work

Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07

I agree with Mike Jones, Why should we accept this type of thug - ORFORD we need to act now and sort this out, this poor man was attacked and his attacker has got off scott free - shame on you Orford people for your comments and worst of all shame on the court for only giving the thug unpaid work

Sue Wilkins, Orford says...
9:54am Tue 10 Jul 07

I agree with Mike Jones, Why should we accept this type of thug - ORFORD we need to act now and sort this out, this poor man was attacked and his attacker has got off scott free - shame on you Orford people for your comments and worst of all shame on the court for only giving the thug unpaid work

Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT

Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT

Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT

Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT

Sue, Orford says...
9:56am Tue 10 Jul 07

Birdy wrote:
Mike Jones wrote: So this thug was convicted of Assault and had previous convictions for assault and was given a sentence of 80 hours unpaid work - Where is the Justice in that, perhaps if Lee carney had killed the man he might have only got 160 Hours unpaid work
The problem was Mike if they would have given a custodial sentance but were unsure whether to send him to a male or female prison.
well just shows what class of person you are read the artivle again and then maybe you will have something worth listening to - IDIOT

Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help

Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help

Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help

Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help

Sue, Orford says...
9:58am Tue 10 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
So he feared he had been spotted wearing women's clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help

Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07

Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?

I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up.

The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull!

I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it.

So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.

Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07

Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?

I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up.

The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull!

I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it.

So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.

Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07

Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?

I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up.

The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull!

I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it.

So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.

Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07

Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?

I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up.

The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull!

I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it.

So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.

Pete, warrington says...
10:41am Wed 11 Jul 07

Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked?

I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up.

The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull!

I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it.

So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.

John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot

John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot

John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot

John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot

John Martin, Orford says...
11:26am Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. "freaking out" and running away) that he wouldn't have been attacked? I'm not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I'm not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don't like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I'm living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you're in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot

Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, warrington says...
2:18pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away) that he wouldn\'t have been attacked? I\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Pete, Orford says...
2:19pm Wed 11 Jul 07

John Martin wrote:
Pete wrote:
Sue wrote:
Pete wrote: So he feared he had been spotted wearing women\\\\\\\'s clothes and ran away, drawing attention to himself in a rough area and was beaten up. Simple solution... DON\\\\\\\'T GO OUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN!
What planet are you on Pete - I agree with Quattro- I also think you need help
Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away) that he wouldn\\\'t have been attacked? I\\\'m not saying he deserved it, but a transvestite walking the streets looking shifty will probably be beaten up. The kind of thugs who do this need little provokation as it is, and a cross-dresser in a skirt and tights would be like a red rag to a bull! I\\\'m not making excuses for the attacker...simply highlighting the state of society in 2007, sorry if you don\\\'t like it. So in answer to your question Sue, I\\\'m living on planet Earth, and this kind of thing is likely to happen to people who look/act differently. I suggest you wise-up or you\\\'re in for a shock dear.
Pete so what your saying is he asked for it because he is a transvestite - its his fault he was beaten up, and its his fault that this thug was there - get real this is 2007 not 1907 people should be allowed to walk down the street minding thier own business and not have to worry about these mindless thugs, sue and the others are right shut up idiot
Thank you for your grown-up response. Did you even bother to read my comment? I said he didn't deserve the assault, nor was he asking for it.

You're right people shoud be able to walk about without being in fear, but unfortunately they can't and the fact that he was dressed as a woman and acting nervously only heightened the risk.

I don't like the fact but there's not much I can do about it.

Thanks for the kind sentiments anyway John, it really gives your argument credability when you call people idiots.

Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote "Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away)"
Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it.

Don't tell me , you're so butch you would have thrown the first punch.

Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote "Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away)"
Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it.

Don't tell me , you're so butch you would have thrown the first punch.

Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote "Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away)"
Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it.

Don't tell me , you're so butch you would have thrown the first punch.

Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote "Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away)"
Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it.

Don't tell me , you're so butch you would have thrown the first punch.

Quattro, says...
5:17pm Wed 11 Jul 07

Pete wrote "Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \"freaking out\" and running away)"
Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it.

Don't tell me , you're so butch you would have thrown the first punch.

sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07

Pete, think you might be a little unhinged, why so may replies the same and if you stopped and read what you have said it clearly points out to someone who has no sense as to whats going on in Warrington

sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07

Pete, think you might be a little unhinged, why so may replies the same and if you stopped and read what you have said it clearly points out to someone who has no sense as to whats going on in Warrington

sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07

Pete, think you might be a little unhinged, why so may replies the same and if you stopped and read what you have said it clearly points out to someone who has no sense as to whats going on in Warrington

sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07

Pete, think you might be a little unhinged, why so may replies the same and if you stopped and read what you have said it clearly points out to someone who has no sense as to whats going on in Warrington

sue, Orford says...
10:53am Thu 12 Jul 07

Pete, think you might be a little unhinged, why so may replies the same and if you stopped and read what you have said it clearly points out to someone who has no sense as to whats going on in Warrington

Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.

Secondly, he ran away because he thought he'd heen spotted not because he was approached so don't ask me what I'd do in that situation because I wouldn't go about dressed like Dr Frankenfurter petrified incase someone saw me!

Happy to help.

Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.

Secondly, he ran away because he thought he'd heen spotted not because he was approached so don't ask me what I'd do in that situation because I wouldn't go about dressed like Dr Frankenfurter petrified incase someone saw me!

Happy to help.

Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.

Secondly, he ran away because he thought he'd heen spotted not because he was approached so don't ask me what I'd do in that situation because I wouldn't go about dressed like Dr Frankenfurter petrified incase someone saw me!

Happy to help.

Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.

Secondly, he ran away because he thought he'd heen spotted not because he was approached so don't ask me what I'd do in that situation because I wouldn't go about dressed like Dr Frankenfurter petrified incase someone saw me!

Happy to help.

Pete, W'ton says...
3:59pm Thu 12 Jul 07

Quattro wrote:
Pete wrote \"Sue, do you seriously think that, had he not been acting suspiciously, (i.e. \\\"freaking out\\\" and running away)\" Running from a yob who challenged him in a threatening way more like it. Don\'t tell me , you\'re so butch you would have thrown the first punch.
That's a quote from the article, not something I've said so get down off your high horse, Quattro.

Secondly, he ran away because he thought he'd heen spotted not because he was approached so don't ask me what I'd do in that situation because I wouldn't go about dressed like Dr Frankenfurter petrified incase someone saw me!

Happy to help.

Snow Queen, Hull says...
11:10pm Tue 24 Jul 07

I don't care if the guy did it because he was dressed as a woman, or because he thought he was a stalker. The guy has previous convictions. Throw away the key.
I reckon that this is a good reason as any for trannies to carry guns in their handbags.

Snow Queen, Hull says...
11:10pm Tue 24 Jul 07

I don't care if the guy did it because he was dressed as a woman, or because he thought he was a stalker. The guy has previous convictions. Throw away the key.
I reckon that this is a good reason as any for trannies to carry guns in their handbags.

Snow Queen, Hull says...
11:10pm Tue 24 Jul 07

I don't care if the guy did it because he was dressed as a woman, or because he thought he was a stalker. The guy has previous convictions. Throw away the key.
I reckon that this is a good reason as any for trannies to carry guns in their handbags.

Snow Queen, Hull says...
11:10pm Tue 24 Jul 07

I don't care if the guy did it because he was dressed as a woman, or because he thought he was a stalker. The guy has previous convictions. Throw away the key.
I reckon that this is a good reason as any for trannies to carry guns in their handbags.

Snow Queen, Hull says...
11:10pm Tue 24 Jul 07

I don't care if the guy did it because he was dressed as a woman, or because he thought he was a stalker. The guy has previous convictions. Throw away the key.
I reckon that this is a good reason as any for trannies to carry guns in their handbags.

Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
5:43am Thu 8 Nov 07

so what is the beeg deal about being a crossdresser maybe guy was just rejected have many good experiences with transvestite and never have a problem

Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
5:43am Thu 8 Nov 07

so what is the beeg deal about being a crossdresser maybe guy was just rejected have many good experiences with transvestite and never have a problem

Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
5:43am Thu 8 Nov 07

so what is the beeg deal about being a crossdresser maybe guy was just rejected have many good experiences with transvestite and never have a problem

Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
5:43am Thu 8 Nov 07

so what is the beeg deal about being a crossdresser maybe guy was just rejected have many good experiences with transvestite and never have a problem

Mike Paahana, Hawaii says...
5:43am Thu 8 Nov 07

so what is the beeg deal about being a crossdresser maybe guy was just rejected have many good experiences with transvestite and never have a problem

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