Why is it that social services will never accept responsibility for their complete lack of interest. They would rather push their noses around a troff where it isnt wanted than help children who need help! Its no use just blaming the boys mother alone, yes she is greatly responsible but surely as a government/taxpayer funded organisation i would say social services hold a great deal of responsibility. As a child let down by social services i can guarantee this child was 'un co-operative' sure he was, he was a teenager with an image to maintain, so why not give them incentives to take your 'help'!!!!! Isnt it funny how a charity such as NSPCC will move the earth to help yet Social Services neglect responsibility! Id say taxpayers fund NSPCC than that bunch of clowns.

Why is it that social services will never accept responsibility for their complete lack of interest. They would rather push their noses around a troff where it isnt wanted than help children who need help! Its no use just blaming the boys mother alone, yes she is greatly responsible but surely as a government/taxpayer funded organisation i would say social services hold a great deal of responsibility. As a child let down by social services i can guarantee this child was 'un co-operative' sure he was, he was a teenager with an image to maintain, so why not give them incentives to take your 'help'!!!!! Isnt it funny how a charity such as NSPCC will move the earth to help yet Social Services neglect responsibility! Id say taxpayers fund NSPCC than that bunch of clowns.

Why is it that social services will never accept responsibility for their complete lack of interest. They would rather push their noses around a troff where it isnt wanted than help children who need help! Its no use just blaming the boys mother alone, yes she is greatly responsible but surely as a government/taxpayer funded organisation i would say social services hold a great deal of responsibility. As a child let down by social services i can guarantee this child was 'un co-operative' sure he was, he was a teenager with an image to maintain, so why not give them incentives to take your 'help'!!!!! Isnt it funny how a charity such as NSPCC will move the earth to help yet Social Services neglect responsibility! Id say taxpayers fund NSPCC than that bunch of clowns.

Why is it that social services will never accept responsibility for their complete lack of interest. They would rather push their noses around a troff where it isnt wanted than help children who need help! Its no use just blaming the boys mother alone, yes she is greatly responsible but surely as a government/taxpayer funded organisation i would say social services hold a great deal of responsibility. As a child let down by social services i can guarantee this child was 'un co-operative' sure he was, he was a teenager with an image to maintain, so why not give them incentives to take your 'help'!!!!! Isnt it funny how a charity such as NSPCC will move the earth to help yet Social Services neglect responsibility! Id say taxpayers fund NSPCC than that bunch of clowns.

Why is it that social services will never accept responsibility for their complete lack of interest. They would rather push their noses around a troff where it isnt wanted than help children who need help! Its no use just blaming the boys mother alone, yes she is greatly responsible but surely as a government/taxpayer funded organisation i would say social services hold a great deal of responsibility. As a child let down by social services i can guarantee this child was 'un co-operative' sure he was, he was a teenager with an image to maintain, so why not give them incentives to take your 'help'!!!!! Isnt it funny how a charity such as NSPCC will move the earth to help yet Social Services neglect responsibility! Id say taxpayers fund NSPCC than that bunch of clowns.

I fail to see the correlation between being 'neglected' by the social services and beating a man to a pulp then throwing him in a river to drown. Theres lots of examples of people within the system where they go off the rails and shoplift etc, but there is no way a 15 year old doesnt know that killing someone so callously is totally wrong. Hes just another example of a brainless thug who would have done it regardless of his situation.

I fail to see the correlation between being 'neglected' by the social services and beating a man to a pulp then throwing him in a river to drown. Theres lots of examples of people within the system where they go off the rails and shoplift etc, but there is no way a 15 year old doesnt know that killing someone so callously is totally wrong. Hes just another example of a brainless thug who would have done it regardless of his situation.

I fail to see the correlation between being 'neglected' by the social services and beating a man to a pulp then throwing him in a river to drown. Theres lots of examples of people within the system where they go off the rails and shoplift etc, but there is no way a 15 year old doesnt know that killing someone so callously is totally wrong. Hes just another example of a brainless thug who would have done it regardless of his situation.

I fail to see the correlation between being 'neglected' by the social services and beating a man to a pulp then throwing him in a river to drown. Theres lots of examples of people within the system where they go off the rails and shoplift etc, but there is no way a 15 year old doesnt know that killing someone so callously is totally wrong. Hes just another example of a brainless thug who would have done it regardless of his situation.

I fail to see the correlation between being 'neglected' by the social services and beating a man to a pulp then throwing him in a river to drown. Theres lots of examples of people within the system where they go off the rails and shoplift etc, but there is no way a 15 year old doesnt know that killing someone so callously is totally wrong. Hes just another example of a brainless thug who would have done it regardless of his situation.

i have known lots of children to be under social services both lads knew what they were doing and i glad to see they are being punished they took someones life that is degrading

i have known lots of children to be under social services both lads knew what they were doing and i glad to see they are being punished they took someones life that is degrading

i have known lots of children to be under social services both lads knew what they were doing and i glad to see they are being punished they took someones life that is degrading

i have known lots of children to be under social services both lads knew what they were doing and i glad to see they are being punished they took someones life that is degrading

i have known lots of children to be under social services both lads knew what they were doing and i glad to see they are being punished they took someones life that is degrading

Social Services may shoulder some of the blame for this, due to the day and age of our society, but the ultimate blame is on the perpetrator. To be honest, I think the kid got off almost scot-free. How they can call it 'life' and then say he's eligible for parole in six years is beyond me! Life should be LIFE, full-stop. He took a life - and while I'll stop short of saying his life should be taken from him, it should be made as difficulat as possible. To free him after six years of 'intense training' such as the type he's likely to receive in prison is ludicrous and invites trouble in the future. He will be out, quite possibley, at 22 years of age ... still a kid, basically. I can unequivocally say that I'm glad I'm not raising children in today's society. God Help Us All when today's kids become parents of their own.

Stew

Social Services may shoulder some of the blame for this, due to the day and age of our society, but the ultimate blame is on the perpetrator. To be honest, I think the kid got off almost scot-free. How they can call it 'life' and then say he's eligible for parole in six years is beyond me! Life should be LIFE, full-stop. He took a life - and while I'll stop short of saying his life should be taken from him, it should be made as difficulat as possible. To free him after six years of 'intense training' such as the type he's likely to receive in prison is ludicrous and invites trouble in the future. He will be out, quite possibley, at 22 years of age ... still a kid, basically. I can unequivocally say that I'm glad I'm not raising children in today's society. God Help Us All when today's kids become parents of their own.

Stew

Social Services may shoulder some of the blame for this, due to the day and age of our society, but the ultimate blame is on the perpetrator. To be honest, I think the kid got off almost scot-free. How they can call it 'life' and then say he's eligible for parole in six years is beyond me! Life should be LIFE, full-stop. He took a life - and while I'll stop short of saying his life should be taken from him, it should be made as difficulat as possible. To free him after six years of 'intense training' such as the type he's likely to receive in prison is ludicrous and invites trouble in the future. He will be out, quite possibley, at 22 years of age ... still a kid, basically. I can unequivocally say that I'm glad I'm not raising children in today's society. God Help Us All when today's kids become parents of their own.

Stew

Social Services may shoulder some of the blame for this, due to the day and age of our society, but the ultimate blame is on the perpetrator. To be honest, I think the kid got off almost scot-free. How they can call it 'life' and then say he's eligible for parole in six years is beyond me! Life should be LIFE, full-stop. He took a life - and while I'll stop short of saying his life should be taken from him, it should be made as difficulat as possible. To free him after six years of 'intense training' such as the type he's likely to receive in prison is ludicrous and invites trouble in the future. He will be out, quite possibley, at 22 years of age ... still a kid, basically. I can unequivocally say that I'm glad I'm not raising children in today's society. God Help Us All when today's kids become parents of their own.

Stew

Social Services may shoulder some of the blame for this, due to the day and age of our society, but the ultimate blame is on the perpetrator. To be honest, I think the kid got off almost scot-free. How they can call it 'life' and then say he's eligible for parole in six years is beyond me! Life should be LIFE, full-stop. He took a life - and while I'll stop short of saying his life should be taken from him, it should be made as difficulat as possible. To free him after six years of 'intense training' such as the type he's likely to receive in prison is ludicrous and invites trouble in the future. He will be out, quite possibley, at 22 years of age ... still a kid, basically. I can unequivocally say that I'm glad I'm not raising children in today's society. God Help Us All when today's kids become parents of their own.

Stew

I know this family personally. I am no fan of social services but in this case I happen to know they gave as much support and more as could be expected, everything from holidays and adventure trips and constant support and intervention. The mother is the one who is feral. My ex-wife along with an elderly couple who lived across from them in Grasmere Avenue were forced to leave their homes due to their lives being made a misery by her and her family.The elderly couple had lived there for forty yearsprior to this happening. Tragically for some kids all the intervention in the world isnt enough but they should have taken them into care long ago, however, the mother is one of those who is a professional victim and plays the system.

I know this family personally. I am no fan of social services but in this case I happen to know they gave as much support and more as could be expected, everything from holidays and adventure trips and constant support and intervention. The mother is the one who is feral. My ex-wife along with an elderly couple who lived across from them in Grasmere Avenue were forced to leave their homes due to their lives being made a misery by her and her family.The elderly couple had lived there for forty yearsprior to this happening. Tragically for some kids all the intervention in the world isnt enough but they should have taken them into care long ago, however, the mother is one of those who is a professional victim and plays the system.

I know this family personally. I am no fan of social services but in this case I happen to know they gave as much support and more as could be expected, everything from holidays and adventure trips and constant support and intervention. The mother is the one who is feral. My ex-wife along with an elderly couple who lived across from them in Grasmere Avenue were forced to leave their homes due to their lives being made a misery by her and her family.The elderly couple had lived there for forty yearsprior to this happening. Tragically for some kids all the intervention in the world isnt enough but they should have taken them into care long ago, however, the mother is one of those who is a professional victim and plays the system.

I know this family personally. I am no fan of social services but in this case I happen to know they gave as much support and more as could be expected, everything from holidays and adventure trips and constant support and intervention. The mother is the one who is feral. My ex-wife along with an elderly couple who lived across from them in Grasmere Avenue were forced to leave their homes due to their lives being made a misery by her and her family.The elderly couple had lived there for forty yearsprior to this happening. Tragically for some kids all the intervention in the world isnt enough but they should have taken them into care long ago, however, the mother is one of those who is a professional victim and plays the system.

I know this family personally. I am no fan of social services but in this case I happen to know they gave as much support and more as could be expected, everything from holidays and adventure trips and constant support and intervention. The mother is the one who is feral. My ex-wife along with an elderly couple who lived across from them in Grasmere Avenue were forced to leave their homes due to their lives being made a misery by her and her family.The elderly couple had lived there for forty yearsprior to this happening. Tragically for some kids all the intervention in the world isnt enough but they should have taken them into care long ago, however, the mother is one of those who is a professional victim and plays the system.

There have been a lot of victims in this situation. The biggest victims of all rarely make the press ... they're the unfortunate family of the deceased - in this case, David Atherton, aged 40. To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives. Perhaps they weren't as close - on the surface - as what most families appear to be (again, on the surface) - but the fact is that they've suffered this tragic loss most of all.

I'd seen the victim around the local area ... and he was (in my opinion) as harmless as a fly.

If ONE child can turn his life around as a result of this, then perhaps Mr. Atherton's family can eventually find peace. I hope that many more than one child can learn from this. The long and short of it all is that the lad committed the crime and a person lost his life because of it. He should do more than six .... for cryin' out loud, you can get more than that for pilfering a cheque in The Untied (sic) States ...

Stew

There have been a lot of victims in this situation. The biggest victims of all rarely make the press ... they're the unfortunate family of the deceased - in this case, David Atherton, aged 40. To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives. Perhaps they weren't as close - on the surface - as what most families appear to be (again, on the surface) - but the fact is that they've suffered this tragic loss most of all.

I'd seen the victim around the local area ... and he was (in my opinion) as harmless as a fly.

If ONE child can turn his life around as a result of this, then perhaps Mr. Atherton's family can eventually find peace. I hope that many more than one child can learn from this. The long and short of it all is that the lad committed the crime and a person lost his life because of it. He should do more than six .... for cryin' out loud, you can get more than that for pilfering a cheque in The Untied (sic) States ...

Stew

There have been a lot of victims in this situation. The biggest victims of all rarely make the press ... they're the unfortunate family of the deceased - in this case, David Atherton, aged 40. To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives. Perhaps they weren't as close - on the surface - as what most families appear to be (again, on the surface) - but the fact is that they've suffered this tragic loss most of all.

I'd seen the victim around the local area ... and he was (in my opinion) as harmless as a fly.

If ONE child can turn his life around as a result of this, then perhaps Mr. Atherton's family can eventually find peace. I hope that many more than one child can learn from this. The long and short of it all is that the lad committed the crime and a person lost his life because of it. He should do more than six .... for cryin' out loud, you can get more than that for pilfering a cheque in The Untied (sic) States ...

Stew

There have been a lot of victims in this situation. The biggest victims of all rarely make the press ... they're the unfortunate family of the deceased - in this case, David Atherton, aged 40. To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives. Perhaps they weren't as close - on the surface - as what most families appear to be (again, on the surface) - but the fact is that they've suffered this tragic loss most of all.

I'd seen the victim around the local area ... and he was (in my opinion) as harmless as a fly.

If ONE child can turn his life around as a result of this, then perhaps Mr. Atherton's family can eventually find peace. I hope that many more than one child can learn from this. The long and short of it all is that the lad committed the crime and a person lost his life because of it. He should do more than six .... for cryin' out loud, you can get more than that for pilfering a cheque in The Untied (sic) States ...

Stew

There have been a lot of victims in this situation. The biggest victims of all rarely make the press ... they're the unfortunate family of the deceased - in this case, David Atherton, aged 40. To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives. Perhaps they weren't as close - on the surface - as what most families appear to be (again, on the surface) - but the fact is that they've suffered this tragic loss most of all.

I'd seen the victim around the local area ... and he was (in my opinion) as harmless as a fly.

If ONE child can turn his life around as a result of this, then perhaps Mr. Atherton's family can eventually find peace. I hope that many more than one child can learn from this. The long and short of it all is that the lad committed the crime and a person lost his life because of it. He should do more than six .... for cryin' out loud, you can get more than that for pilfering a cheque in The Untied (sic) States ...

Stew

The write up in the Warrington Guardian this week claims social services are not to be part blamed for the horrific murder of Mr Atherton. The front page headlines, are regarding one of the teenage brutal murders, RYAN PALIN THE VICTIM. There is only one tradgic victim who suffered beyond believe, and that is MR DAVID ATHERTON. Let down by the 'so called' organisations of help. even in his death, the justice system LET HIM DOWN! LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE. Someone please send the teenage PSYCHOPATHS to IRAQ BAGDAD, then the poor relatives of Mr atherton may get real justice,tradgically too late, and us innocent people will get peace of mind. totally sickend. My thoughts go to david and his family, the ONLY victims.

The write up in the Warrington Guardian this week claims social services are not to be part blamed for the horrific murder of Mr Atherton. The front page headlines, are regarding one of the teenage brutal murders, RYAN PALIN THE VICTIM. There is only one tradgic victim who suffered beyond believe, and that is MR DAVID ATHERTON. Let down by the 'so called' organisations of help. even in his death, the justice system LET HIM DOWN! LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE. Someone please send the teenage PSYCHOPATHS to IRAQ BAGDAD, then the poor relatives of Mr atherton may get real justice,tradgically too late, and us innocent people will get peace of mind. totally sickend. My thoughts go to david and his family, the ONLY victims.

The write up in the Warrington Guardian this week claims social services are not to be part blamed for the horrific murder of Mr Atherton. The front page headlines, are regarding one of the teenage brutal murders, RYAN PALIN THE VICTIM. There is only one tradgic victim who suffered beyond believe, and that is MR DAVID ATHERTON. Let down by the 'so called' organisations of help. even in his death, the justice system LET HIM DOWN! LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE. Someone please send the teenage PSYCHOPATHS to IRAQ BAGDAD, then the poor relatives of Mr atherton may get real justice,tradgically too late, and us innocent people will get peace of mind. totally sickend. My thoughts go to david and his family, the ONLY victims.

The write up in the Warrington Guardian this week claims social services are not to be part blamed for the horrific murder of Mr Atherton. The front page headlines, are regarding one of the teenage brutal murders, RYAN PALIN THE VICTIM. There is only one tradgic victim who suffered beyond believe, and that is MR DAVID ATHERTON. Let down by the 'so called' organisations of help. even in his death, the justice system LET HIM DOWN! LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE. Someone please send the teenage PSYCHOPATHS to IRAQ BAGDAD, then the poor relatives of Mr atherton may get real justice,tradgically too late, and us innocent people will get peace of mind. totally sickend. My thoughts go to david and his family, the ONLY victims.

The write up in the Warrington Guardian this week claims social services are not to be part blamed for the horrific murder of Mr Atherton. The front page headlines, are regarding one of the teenage brutal murders, RYAN PALIN THE VICTIM. There is only one tradgic victim who suffered beyond believe, and that is MR DAVID ATHERTON. Let down by the 'so called' organisations of help. even in his death, the justice system LET HIM DOWN! LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE. Someone please send the teenage PSYCHOPATHS to IRAQ BAGDAD, then the poor relatives of Mr atherton may get real justice,tradgically too late, and us innocent people will get peace of mind. totally sickend. My thoughts go to david and his family, the ONLY victims.

Palins uncle saying palin is the victim - his uncle doesnt even live over here, plus if this kid had all hoildays paid for of the social and treated like a spolit brat why did he do this -- 1, coz he is a born killer. i have known kids in the childrens home (on st katherines way) which dont go on fancy hoildays and know that killing is wrong - david atherton told social services "the kids have found me again" what did they do NOTHING -- BUT LET THIS MAN GET BEATEN AND ABUSED FOR OVER A YEAR, them two boys dont even live on st katherines way -- i live round here and am shocked by wat has happend - and i am outraged by one of the qc's defending Dodd who said "this is what this estate is like" well them lads wasnt even from here they found this poor victim yet again and ruined his life and thie estate is not like this at all, the only reason this isnt in high newspapers is because they know he was let down by the system. the last time i have heard of anything as sick as this is when little jamie bulger was taken from liverpool. Council should of moved both familes far away they was well known to them - what the council forgot to note is that the past 4 places where dodd's family have lived they have been moved on every time - this is a disgrace to warrington how this could happen and i hope they never get out coz most people of warrington wouldnt want to see them -

Palins uncle saying palin is the victim - his uncle doesnt even live over here, plus if this kid had all hoildays paid for of the social and treated like a spolit brat why did he do this -- 1, coz he is a born killer. i have known kids in the childrens home (on st katherines way) which dont go on fancy hoildays and know that killing is wrong - david atherton told social services "the kids have found me again" what did they do NOTHING -- BUT LET THIS MAN GET BEATEN AND ABUSED FOR OVER A YEAR, them two boys dont even live on st katherines way -- i live round here and am shocked by wat has happend - and i am outraged by one of the qc's defending Dodd who said "this is what this estate is like" well them lads wasnt even from here they found this poor victim yet again and ruined his life and thie estate is not like this at all, the only reason this isnt in high newspapers is because they know he was let down by the system. the last time i have heard of anything as sick as this is when little jamie bulger was taken from liverpool. Council should of moved both familes far away they was well known to them - what the council forgot to note is that the past 4 places where dodd's family have lived they have been moved on every time - this is a disgrace to warrington how this could happen and i hope they never get out coz most people of warrington wouldnt want to see them -

Palins uncle saying palin is the victim - his uncle doesnt even live over here, plus if this kid had all hoildays paid for of the social and treated like a spolit brat why did he do this -- 1, coz he is a born killer. i have known kids in the childrens home (on st katherines way) which dont go on fancy hoildays and know that killing is wrong - david atherton told social services "the kids have found me again" what did they do NOTHING -- BUT LET THIS MAN GET BEATEN AND ABUSED FOR OVER A YEAR, them two boys dont even live on st katherines way -- i live round here and am shocked by wat has happend - and i am outraged by one of the qc's defending Dodd who said "this is what this estate is like" well them lads wasnt even from here they found this poor victim yet again and ruined his life and thie estate is not like this at all, the only reason this isnt in high newspapers is because they know he was let down by the system. the last time i have heard of anything as sick as this is when little jamie bulger was taken from liverpool. Council should of moved both familes far away they was well known to them - what the council forgot to note is that the past 4 places where dodd's family have lived they have been moved on every time - this is a disgrace to warrington how this could happen and i hope they never get out coz most people of warrington wouldnt want to see them -

Palins uncle saying palin is the victim - his uncle doesnt even live over here, plus if this kid had all hoildays paid for of the social and treated like a spolit brat why did he do this -- 1, coz he is a born killer. i have known kids in the childrens home (on st katherines way) which dont go on fancy hoildays and know that killing is wrong - david atherton told social services "the kids have found me again" what did they do NOTHING -- BUT LET THIS MAN GET BEATEN AND ABUSED FOR OVER A YEAR, them two boys dont even live on st katherines way -- i live round here and am shocked by wat has happend - and i am outraged by one of the qc's defending Dodd who said "this is what this estate is like" well them lads wasnt even from here they found this poor victim yet again and ruined his life and thie estate is not like this at all, the only reason this isnt in high newspapers is because they know he was let down by the system. the last time i have heard of anything as sick as this is when little jamie bulger was taken from liverpool. Council should of moved both familes far away they was well known to them - what the council forgot to note is that the past 4 places where dodd's family have lived they have been moved on every time - this is a disgrace to warrington how this could happen and i hope they never get out coz most people of warrington wouldnt want to see them -

Palins uncle saying palin is the victim - his uncle doesnt even live over here, plus if this kid had all hoildays paid for of the social and treated like a spolit brat why did he do this -- 1, coz he is a born killer. i have known kids in the childrens home (on st katherines way) which dont go on fancy hoildays and know that killing is wrong - david atherton told social services "the kids have found me again" what did they do NOTHING -- BUT LET THIS MAN GET BEATEN AND ABUSED FOR OVER A YEAR, them two boys dont even live on st katherines way -- i live round here and am shocked by wat has happend - and i am outraged by one of the qc's defending Dodd who said "this is what this estate is like" well them lads wasnt even from here they found this poor victim yet again and ruined his life and thie estate is not like this at all, the only reason this isnt in high newspapers is because they know he was let down by the system. the last time i have heard of anything as sick as this is when little jamie bulger was taken from liverpool. Council should of moved both familes far away they was well known to them - what the council forgot to note is that the past 4 places where dodd's family have lived they have been moved on every time - this is a disgrace to warrington how this could happen and i hope they never get out coz most people of warrington wouldnt want to see them -

AS IF THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING!!! THERE SICK BOTH OF THEM AND SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT!! on the first court hearing the pair of them was waving to the parents have a look on http://truecrimebloguk.blogspot.com/2007/04/terroring-of-david-atherton.html - disgusted by this urinating on the poor man and pouring bleach in his hair - they just like picking on a man who had learning probelms and they kept on feeding of it.

AS IF THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING!!! THERE SICK BOTH OF THEM AND SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT!! on the first court hearing the pair of them was waving to the parents have a look on http://truecrimebloguk.blogspot.com/2007/04/terroring-of-david-atherton.html - disgusted by this urinating on the poor man and pouring bleach in his hair - they just like picking on a man who had learning probelms and they kept on feeding of it.

AS IF THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING!!! THERE SICK BOTH OF THEM AND SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT!! on the first court hearing the pair of them was waving to the parents have a look on http://truecrimebloguk.blogspot.com/2007/04/terroring-of-david-atherton.html - disgusted by this urinating on the poor man and pouring bleach in his hair - they just like picking on a man who had learning probelms and they kept on feeding of it.

AS IF THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING!!! THERE SICK BOTH OF THEM AND SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT!! on the first court hearing the pair of them was waving to the parents have a look on http://truecrimebloguk.blogspot.com/2007/04/terroring-of-david-atherton.html - disgusted by this urinating on the poor man and pouring bleach in his hair - they just like picking on a man who had learning probelms and they kept on feeding of it.

AS IF THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING!!! THERE SICK BOTH OF THEM AND SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT!! on the first court hearing the pair of them was waving to the parents have a look on http://truecrimebloguk.blogspot.com/2007/04/terroring-of-david-atherton.html - disgusted by this urinating on the poor man and pouring bleach in his hair - they just like picking on a man who had learning probelms and they kept on feeding of it.

the warrington guardian did not print all of the people's names that caused mr atherton hurt in his life and it should have reading some of the other comments that other people have wrote i to think life means life and more should be done with those that were not mentioned because to them they have got away with it and possibly to do more crimes.

the warrington guardian did not print all of the people's names that caused mr atherton hurt in his life and it should have reading some of the other comments that other people have wrote i to think life means life and more should be done with those that were not mentioned because to them they have got away with it and possibly to do more crimes.

the warrington guardian did not print all of the people's names that caused mr atherton hurt in his life and it should have reading some of the other comments that other people have wrote i to think life means life and more should be done with those that were not mentioned because to them they have got away with it and possibly to do more crimes.

the warrington guardian did not print all of the people's names that caused mr atherton hurt in his life and it should have reading some of the other comments that other people have wrote i to think life means life and more should be done with those that were not mentioned because to them they have got away with it and possibly to do more crimes.

the warrington guardian did not print all of the people's names that caused mr atherton hurt in his life and it should have reading some of the other comments that other people have wrote i to think life means life and more should be done with those that were not mentioned because to them they have got away with it and possibly to do more crimes.

On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?

On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?

On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?

On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?

On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?

Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind 'secret meetings' to 'absolve themselves of blame'. I

read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type...

"monster " you shout,
"Brainless Thug " you scream,

blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments..

And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN .

But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out.

AT LEAST I DO .

You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life

should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in.

I should have been more assertive and said "NO F**king way" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the "existence" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice.

I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS .

But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan.
Another 'waster family ' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ?????

If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues.

Pertinent replies..

Mick

"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?"

Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , " blood from a stone is hard to get, ,

intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then).

Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to "go away" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day.

Stew
"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives."

You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was "killed" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no
way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die.

Dom
Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent.

I await an interesting reply.

With my kindest regards

Uncle

Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind 'secret meetings' to 'absolve themselves of blame'. I

read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type...

"monster " you shout,
"Brainless Thug " you scream,

blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments..

And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN .

But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out.

AT LEAST I DO .

You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life

should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in.

I should have been more assertive and said "NO F**king way" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the "existence" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice.

I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS .

But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan.
Another 'waster family ' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ?????

If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues.

Pertinent replies..

Mick

"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?"

Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , " blood from a stone is hard to get, ,

intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then).

Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to "go away" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day.

Stew
"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives."

You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was "killed" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no
way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die.

Dom
Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent.

I await an interesting reply.

With my kindest regards

Uncle

Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind 'secret meetings' to 'absolve themselves of blame'. I

read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type...

"monster " you shout,
"Brainless Thug " you scream,

blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments..

And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN .

But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out.

AT LEAST I DO .

You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life

should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in.

I should have been more assertive and said "NO F**king way" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the "existence" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice.

I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS .

But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan.
Another 'waster family ' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ?????

If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues.

Pertinent replies..

Mick

"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?"

Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , " blood from a stone is hard to get, ,

intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then).

Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to "go away" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day.

Stew
"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives."

You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was "killed" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no
way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die.

Dom
Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent.

I await an interesting reply.

With my kindest regards

Uncle

Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind 'secret meetings' to 'absolve themselves of blame'. I

read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type...

"monster " you shout,
"Brainless Thug " you scream,

blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments..

And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN .

But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out.

AT LEAST I DO .

You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life

should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in.

I should have been more assertive and said "NO F**king way" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the "existence" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice.

I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS .

But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan.
Another 'waster family ' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ?????

If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues.

Pertinent replies..

Mick

"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?"

Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , " blood from a stone is hard to get, ,

intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then).

Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to "go away" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day.

Stew
"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives."

You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was "killed" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no
way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die.

Dom
Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent.

I await an interesting reply.

With my kindest regards

Uncle

Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind 'secret meetings' to 'absolve themselves of blame'. I

read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type...

"monster " you shout,
"Brainless Thug " you scream,

blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments..

And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN .

But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out.

AT LEAST I DO .

You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life

should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in.

I should have been more assertive and said "NO F**king way" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the "existence" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice.

I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS .

But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan.
Another 'waster family ' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ?????

If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues.

Pertinent replies..

Mick

"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?"

Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , " blood from a stone is hard to get, ,

intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then).

Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to "go away" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day.

Stew
"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives."

You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was "killed" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no
way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die.

Dom
Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent.

I await an interesting reply.

With my kindest regards

Uncle

i no ryan he was a good lad altho it is no excuse for him he is my litte brother kyles cuson both dads where brothers and both dead he at one point was doing verry well and i could never imagine him doing this as he hated the thaught as a child his head was messed up by being pushed from piller to post as a child x DOM RYAN DID NO WHAT HE WAS DOIN AND IS RESPONCIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BUT REMBERBER HE IS A KID

i no ryan he was a good lad altho it is no excuse for him he is my litte brother kyles cuson both dads where brothers and both dead he at one point was doing verry well and i could never imagine him doing this as he hated the thaught as a child his head was messed up by being pushed from piller to post as a child x DOM RYAN DID NO WHAT HE WAS DOIN AND IS RESPONCIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BUT REMBERBER HE IS A KID

i no ryan he was a good lad altho it is no excuse for him he is my litte brother kyles cuson both dads where brothers and both dead he at one point was doing verry well and i could never imagine him doing this as he hated the thaught as a child his head was messed up by being pushed from piller to post as a child x DOM RYAN DID NO WHAT HE WAS DOIN AND IS RESPONCIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BUT REMBERBER HE IS A KID

i no ryan he was a good lad altho it is no excuse for him he is my litte brother kyles cuson both dads where brothers and both dead he at one point was doing verry well and i could never imagine him doing this as he hated the thaught as a child his head was messed up by being pushed from piller to post as a child x DOM RYAN DID NO WHAT HE WAS DOIN AND IS RESPONCIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BUT REMBERBER HE IS A KID

i no ryan he was a good lad altho it is no excuse for him he is my litte brother kyles cuson both dads where brothers and both dead he at one point was doing verry well and i could never imagine him doing this as he hated the thaught as a child his head was messed up by being pushed from piller to post as a child x DOM RYAN DID NO WHAT HE WAS DOIN AND IS RESPONCIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BUT REMBERBER HE IS A KID

my freind just commented for me and that point of view is not mine i am sickend by this but i new ryan personally. growing up clocely together ryans mum was not a careing mother but did not get the help she needed to help with ryan and his brother form social servces my brother shares blood with this family and he is totaly diffrent its the way childern are braught up ryan lost his dad and his uncle as my brother kyle lost a dad ryan was respocible for his actions but as my freind said social services pushed him from piller to post wich mad him the way he was no excuse for murder tho i no. i agree strongly with uncle who next time in the uk should come and see his nephu if he wants to.

my freind just commented for me and that point of view is not mine i am sickend by this but i new ryan personally. growing up clocely together ryans mum was not a careing mother but did not get the help she needed to help with ryan and his brother form social servces my brother shares blood with this family and he is totaly diffrent its the way childern are braught up ryan lost his dad and his uncle as my brother kyle lost a dad ryan was respocible for his actions but as my freind said social services pushed him from piller to post wich mad him the way he was no excuse for murder tho i no. i agree strongly with uncle who next time in the uk should come and see his nephu if he wants to.

my freind just commented for me and that point of view is not mine i am sickend by this but i new ryan personally. growing up clocely together ryans mum was not a careing mother but did not get the help she needed to help with ryan and his brother form social servces my brother shares blood with this family and he is totaly diffrent its the way childern are braught up ryan lost his dad and his uncle as my brother kyle lost a dad ryan was respocible for his actions but as my freind said social services pushed him from piller to post wich mad him the way he was no excuse for murder tho i no. i agree strongly with uncle who next time in the uk should come and see his nephu if he wants to.

my freind just commented for me and that point of view is not mine i am sickend by this but i new ryan personally. growing up clocely together ryans mum was not a careing mother but did not get the help she needed to help with ryan and his brother form social servces my brother shares blood with this family and he is totaly diffrent its the way childern are braught up ryan lost his dad and his uncle as my brother kyle lost a dad ryan was respocible for his actions but as my freind said social services pushed him from piller to post wich mad him the way he was no excuse for murder tho i no. i agree strongly with uncle who next time in the uk should come and see his nephu if he wants to.

my freind just commented for me and that point of view is not mine i am sickend by this but i new ryan personally. growing up clocely together ryans mum was not a careing mother but did not get the help she needed to help with ryan and his brother form social servces my brother shares blood with this family and he is totaly diffrent its the way childern are braught up ryan lost his dad and his uncle as my brother kyle lost a dad ryan was respocible for his actions but as my freind said social services pushed him from piller to post wich mad him the way he was no excuse for murder tho i no. i agree strongly with uncle who next time in the uk should come and see his nephu if he wants to.

i know ryan very well and i know his mum and his mum loved her kids a great deal and when ryan went missing the reason she didnt phone the police is because she always knew where he was and he didnt need loving he had to much of that its craig that use to wheel him in to doing things he was a nice lad when you get to know him as i should know because i went out with him for a year her doesnt like hurting people and in the paper half of it is lies anyway nobody knows ryan like me and his family so they need to stop blaming debbie for ryans actions he had his own mind

i know ryan very well and i know his mum and his mum loved her kids a great deal and when ryan went missing the reason she didnt phone the police is because she always knew where he was and he didnt need loving he had to much of that its craig that use to wheel him in to doing things he was a nice lad when you get to know him as i should know because i went out with him for a year her doesnt like hurting people and in the paper half of it is lies anyway nobody knows ryan like me and his family so they need to stop blaming debbie for ryans actions he had his own mind

i know ryan very well and i know his mum and his mum loved her kids a great deal and when ryan went missing the reason she didnt phone the police is because she always knew where he was and he didnt need loving he had to much of that its craig that use to wheel him in to doing things he was a nice lad when you get to know him as i should know because i went out with him for a year her doesnt like hurting people and in the paper half of it is lies anyway nobody knows ryan like me and his family so they need to stop blaming debbie for ryans actions he had his own mind

i know ryan very well and i know his mum and his mum loved her kids a great deal and when ryan went missing the reason she didnt phone the police is because she always knew where he was and he didnt need loving he had to much of that its craig that use to wheel him in to doing things he was a nice lad when you get to know him as i should know because i went out with him for a year her doesnt like hurting people and in the paper half of it is lies anyway nobody knows ryan like me and his family so they need to stop blaming debbie for ryans actions he had his own mind

i know ryan very well and i know his mum and his mum loved her kids a great deal and when ryan went missing the reason she didnt phone the police is because she always knew where he was and he didnt need loving he had to much of that its craig that use to wheel him in to doing things he was a nice lad when you get to know him as i should know because i went out with him for a year her doesnt like hurting people and in the paper half of it is lies anyway nobody knows ryan like me and his family so they need to stop blaming debbie for ryans actions he had his own mind

For gods sake we will keep on about this coz it needs to be heard, i live round that estate i didnt know this was going on for a year social services should of stopped this long ago - but if ppl are syaing ryan hated ppl doing things like this then why did he do it!! poor man was beaten and a victim for years it a shame ppl can think of crual horrible things to do to another human and in above notes it is like jamie bulger but the man was alot older - all it is these to stupid boys should of knew better for gods sake my 6yr old does - they must have a srew missing but at least the screw has been put in place on that jail door - i would never like to see these two lads out i would be worried for another vicitm i mean its not the 1st time the pair of them have done things like this. - sick sick sick - all of it is true them two boys loved the fact this man was weak and it gave them a fix being the bigger bullies - should never be aloud back to warrington!!!! NEVER!

For gods sake we will keep on about this coz it needs to be heard, i live round that estate i didnt know this was going on for a year social services should of stopped this long ago - but if ppl are syaing ryan hated ppl doing things like this then why did he do it!! poor man was beaten and a victim for years it a shame ppl can think of crual horrible things to do to another human and in above notes it is like jamie bulger but the man was alot older - all it is these to stupid boys should of knew better for gods sake my 6yr old does - they must have a srew missing but at least the screw has been put in place on that jail door - i would never like to see these two lads out i would be worried for another vicitm i mean its not the 1st time the pair of them have done things like this. - sick sick sick - all of it is true them two boys loved the fact this man was weak and it gave them a fix being the bigger bullies - should never be aloud back to warrington!!!! NEVER!

For gods sake we will keep on about this coz it needs to be heard, i live round that estate i didnt know this was going on for a year social services should of stopped this long ago - but if ppl are syaing ryan hated ppl doing things like this then why did he do it!! poor man was beaten and a victim for years it a shame ppl can think of crual horrible things to do to another human and in above notes it is like jamie bulger but the man was alot older - all it is these to stupid boys should of knew better for gods sake my 6yr old does - they must have a srew missing but at least the screw has been put in place on that jail door - i would never like to see these two lads out i would be worried for another vicitm i mean its not the 1st time the pair of them have done things like this. - sick sick sick - all of it is true them two boys loved the fact this man was weak and it gave them a fix being the bigger bullies - should never be aloud back to warrington!!!! NEVER!

For gods sake we will keep on about this coz it needs to be heard, i live round that estate i didnt know this was going on for a year social services should of stopped this long ago - but if ppl are syaing ryan hated ppl doing things like this then why did he do it!! poor man was beaten and a victim for years it a shame ppl can think of crual horrible things to do to another human and in above notes it is like jamie bulger but the man was alot older - all it is these to stupid boys should of knew better for gods sake my 6yr old does - they must have a srew missing but at least the screw has been put in place on that jail door - i would never like to see these two lads out i would be worried for another vicitm i mean its not the 1st time the pair of them have done things like this. - sick sick sick - all of it is true them two boys loved the fact this man was weak and it gave them a fix being the bigger bullies - should never be aloud back to warrington!!!! NEVER!

For gods sake we will keep on about this coz it needs to be heard, i live round that estate i didnt know this was going on for a year social services should of stopped this long ago - but if ppl are syaing ryan hated ppl doing things like this then why did he do it!! poor man was beaten and a victim for years it a shame ppl can think of crual horrible things to do to another human and in above notes it is like jamie bulger but the man was alot older - all it is these to stupid boys should of knew better for gods sake my 6yr old does - they must have a srew missing but at least the screw has been put in place on that jail door - i would never like to see these two lads out i would be worried for another vicitm i mean its not the 1st time the pair of them have done things like this. - sick sick sick - all of it is true them two boys loved the fact this man was weak and it gave them a fix being the bigger bullies - should never be aloud back to warrington!!!! NEVER!

I AGREE - BAN THE PAIR FROM WARRINGTON.

AND YES PPL SHOULD CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT WONT GET FORGOTTON WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE AND THE FAMILYS WONT FORGET WANT THEY DID.

I AGREE - BAN THE PAIR FROM WARRINGTON.

AND YES PPL SHOULD CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT WONT GET FORGOTTON WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE AND THE FAMILYS WONT FORGET WANT THEY DID.

I AGREE - BAN THE PAIR FROM WARRINGTON.

AND YES PPL SHOULD CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT WONT GET FORGOTTON WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE AND THE FAMILYS WONT FORGET WANT THEY DID.

I AGREE - BAN THE PAIR FROM WARRINGTON.

AND YES PPL SHOULD CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT WONT GET FORGOTTON WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE AND THE FAMILYS WONT FORGET WANT THEY DID.

I AGREE - BAN THE PAIR FROM WARRINGTON.

AND YES PPL SHOULD CARRY ON TALKING ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT WONT GET FORGOTTON WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE AND THE FAMILYS WONT FORGET WANT THEY DID.

uncle wrote:
Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind \\\\\\\'secret meetings\\\\\\\' to \\\\\\\'absolve themselves of blame\\\\\\\'. I read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type... \\\\\\\"monster \\\\\\\" you shout, \\\\\\\"Brainless Thug \\\\\\\" you scream, blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments.. And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN . But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out. AT LEAST I DO . You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in. I should have been more assertive and said \\\\\\\"NO F**king way\\\\\\\" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the \\\\\\\"existence\\\\\\\" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice. I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS . But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan. Another \\\\\\\'waster family \\\\\\\' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ????? If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues. Pertinent replies.. Mick \\\\\\\"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?\\\\\\\" Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , \\\\\\\" blood from a stone is hard to get, , intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible\\\\\\\". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then). Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to \\\\\\\"go away\\\\\\\" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day. Stew \\\\\\\"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives.\\\\\\\" You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was \\\\\\\"killed\\\\\\\" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die. Dom Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent. I await an interesting reply. With my kindest regards

Uncle

he made a mistake every1 deserves another chance its not his families fault how could they predict if hes going to do something like that no1 can u all say i know he was like that but none of yous did or you would of tried to help him and no1 did

uncle wrote:
Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind \\\\\\\'secret meetings\\\\\\\' to \\\\\\\'absolve themselves of blame\\\\\\\'. I read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type... \\\\\\\"monster \\\\\\\" you shout, \\\\\\\"Brainless Thug \\\\\\\" you scream, blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments.. And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN . But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out. AT LEAST I DO . You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in. I should have been more assertive and said \\\\\\\"NO F**king way\\\\\\\" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the \\\\\\\"existence\\\\\\\" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice. I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS . But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan. Another \\\\\\\'waster family \\\\\\\' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ????? If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues. Pertinent replies.. Mick \\\\\\\"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?\\\\\\\" Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , \\\\\\\" blood from a stone is hard to get, , intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible\\\\\\\". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then). Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to \\\\\\\"go away\\\\\\\" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day. Stew \\\\\\\"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives.\\\\\\\" You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was \\\\\\\"killed\\\\\\\" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die. Dom Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent. I await an interesting reply. With my kindest regards

Uncle

he made a mistake every1 deserves another chance its not his families fault how could they predict if hes going to do something like that no1 can u all say i know he was like that but none of yous did or you would of tried to help him and no1 did

uncle wrote:
Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind \\\\\\\'secret meetings\\\\\\\' to \\\\\\\'absolve themselves of blame\\\\\\\'. I read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type... \\\\\\\"monster \\\\\\\" you shout, \\\\\\\"Brainless Thug \\\\\\\" you scream, blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments.. And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN . But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out. AT LEAST I DO . You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in. I should have been more assertive and said \\\\\\\"NO F**king way\\\\\\\" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the \\\\\\\"existence\\\\\\\" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice. I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS . But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan. Another \\\\\\\'waster family \\\\\\\' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ????? If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues. Pertinent replies.. Mick \\\\\\\"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?\\\\\\\" Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , \\\\\\\" blood from a stone is hard to get, , intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible\\\\\\\". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then). Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to \\\\\\\"go away\\\\\\\" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day. Stew \\\\\\\"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives.\\\\\\\" You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was \\\\\\\"killed\\\\\\\" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die. Dom Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent. I await an interesting reply. With my kindest regards

Uncle

he made a mistake every1 deserves another chance its not his families fault how could they predict if hes going to do something like that no1 can u all say i know he was like that but none of yous did or you would of tried to help him and no1 did

uncle wrote:
Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind \\\\\\\'secret meetings\\\\\\\' to \\\\\\\'absolve themselves of blame\\\\\\\'. I read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type... \\\\\\\"monster \\\\\\\" you shout, \\\\\\\"Brainless Thug \\\\\\\" you scream, blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments.. And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN . But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out. AT LEAST I DO . You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in. I should have been more assertive and said \\\\\\\"NO F**king way\\\\\\\" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the \\\\\\\"existence\\\\\\\" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice. I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS . But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan. Another \\\\\\\'waster family \\\\\\\' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ????? If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues. Pertinent replies.. Mick \\\\\\\"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?\\\\\\\" Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , \\\\\\\" blood from a stone is hard to get, , intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible\\\\\\\". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then). Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to \\\\\\\"go away\\\\\\\" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day. Stew \\\\\\\"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives.\\\\\\\" You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was \\\\\\\"killed\\\\\\\" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die. Dom Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent. I await an interesting reply. With my kindest regards

Uncle

he made a mistake every1 deserves another chance its not his families fault how could they predict if hes going to do something like that no1 can u all say i know he was like that but none of yous did or you would of tried to help him and no1 did

uncle wrote:
Once again the masses scream for blood and the authorities hide behind \\\\\\\'secret meetings\\\\\\\' to \\\\\\\'absolve themselves of blame\\\\\\\'. I read with further tears the same boring rhetoric that surrounds all occurences of this type... \\\\\\\"monster \\\\\\\" you shout, \\\\\\\"Brainless Thug \\\\\\\" you scream, blah blah blah , why why why such novel sentiments.. And all the while you sit back on your tear soaked pillows doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN . But guess what silent whiners, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, only this time it will be YOUR son/daughter or relative and you will not have the bottle to even speak out. AT LEAST I DO . You all should hang your head in shame as I am told I should, but I will not, I tried and begged for 15 years to get this boy and his brothers the help they deserved, I was ignored at every turn, I even gave them a decent idea of what real happy life should be but and was threatened with arrest if I did not put them back into the **** they were ultimately raised in. I should have been more assertive and said \\\\\\\"NO F**king way\\\\\\\" but that is a failure, YES A FAILURE, on my part that I have to live with daily, not just for the \\\\\\\"existence\\\\\\\" I ignorantly gave back to these children, but also , and this is mush harder for me to live with,the fact that my decision ultimately led to the death of an innocent and gentle human being.. I implore the family of David Atherton to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for my decisions, I could never ever have predicted such a tragic outcome. If I had ever had an inkling of what was going on I would have done everything in my power to make a change, which is more than I can say for the social services, who to my knowledge, had at least a YEARS notice. I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY VERY VERY SORRY. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS . But this is not a new situation, this boys father was murdered by thugs (If you want names I will be happy to provide them, lets see who is really interested) who themselves were ignored by the same social services that failed Ryan. Another \\\\\\\'waster family \\\\\\\' whose only point in life is to parasitise the income support system and raise useless, worthless prodigy in their own mould. The County coroner left his inquest open because he just could not believe it was a suicide, (anyone who knew Ryans father would agree.) but guess what, no-one was interested then, that was 15 years ago, why should anyone be interested now ????? If for no other reason this should be addressed because you the TAXPAYER are paying for these people to earn 50G a year for ignoring the real issues. Pertinent replies.. Mick \\\\\\\"On the night Palin was charged his mother was observed having a barbecue on the front of her property. speaks volumes doesnt it?\\\\\\\" Thank you so much for the intelligent insight, if everyone saw the real truth behind this tragic history they would have less to say and therefore MORE to say, ... but as a man , sorry child, once said , \\\\\\\" blood from a stone is hard to get, , intelligent conversation from a partially educated imbecile is almost impossible\\\\\\\". ( Quote from Ryan Palin 1998. this child was barely 6 years old then). Children learn from their peers. So who was teaching this child ??? You are correct they should have been taken into care long ago, I begged for it but was told to \\\\\\\"go away\\\\\\\" (apart from the time the mother was jailed dealing drugs from the childs home, then I was given a chance, but as soon as she was released they were just thrown back to the wolves.) Social sevices should be ashamed, I will NEVER hang my head but they should every day. Stew \\\\\\\"To lose their son/brother/uncle etc., in a situation such as this, will forever affect ALL of their lives.\\\\\\\" You are correct , it affects everyones lives , including mine, my own brother and Ryans father was \\\\\\\"killed\\\\\\\" when he was 22 years old by local thugs, so you see, same old same old, what are you going to do about it, whine some more maybe?? act?? no way!! Keep bleating sheepy, bahhhhh bahhhhh bahhhh, I myself, as does the child, will continue to have nightmares daily till the day I die. Dom Please stop quoting what you learned on a website it just exemplifies the lack of knowledge of the issue, if you have nothing interesting to say then just stay composed and silent. I await an interesting reply. With my kindest regards

Uncle

he made a mistake every1 deserves another chance its not his families fault how could they predict if hes going to do something like that no1 can u all say i know he was like that but none of yous did or you would of tried to help him and no1 did

rite i ave none bout of the for a very very very long time n non of them have got a harmful bone in there body they didnt mean 2 kill this man y dont ppl just leave them alone they r just kids remeber that they r kids think if 1 ov ur kids did it this u wood want ppl 2 leave them alone so leave the poor children alone they have done rong n now they are payin 4 it!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!

rite i ave none bout of the for a very very very long time n non of them have got a harmful bone in there body they didnt mean 2 kill this man y dont ppl just leave them alone they r just kids remeber that they r kids think if 1 ov ur kids did it this u wood want ppl 2 leave them alone so leave the poor children alone they have done rong n now they are payin 4 it!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!

rite i ave none bout of the for a very very very long time n non of them have got a harmful bone in there body they didnt mean 2 kill this man y dont ppl just leave them alone they r just kids remeber that they r kids think if 1 ov ur kids did it this u wood want ppl 2 leave them alone so leave the poor children alone they have done rong n now they are payin 4 it!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!

rite i ave none bout of the for a very very very long time n non of them have got a harmful bone in there body they didnt mean 2 kill this man y dont ppl just leave them alone they r just kids remeber that they r kids think if 1 ov ur kids did it this u wood want ppl 2 leave them alone so leave the poor children alone they have done rong n now they are payin 4 it!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!

rite i ave none bout of the for a very very very long time n non of them have got a harmful bone in there body they didnt mean 2 kill this man y dont ppl just leave them alone they r just kids remeber that they r kids think if 1 ov ur kids did it this u wood want ppl 2 leave them alone so leave the poor children alone they have done rong n now they are payin 4 it!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!

Poor children??? POOR CHILDREN???? Poor children are those dying from famine in Africa.....not teenage thugs who kill innocent men, men who have struggled themselves through life with their disabilities. I totally agree with Claire....it is very similar to the Jamie Bulger case....using their position of superiority over a gentleman with severe learning difficulties to bully and harrass him quite literrally to death! And as much as I sympathise with his uncle and his efforts to pull Ryan from his grim existance with his so called mother, I do not care what any one says, a child of 4 or 5 may indeed copy thier pathetic excuses for parents and not know right from wrong, but a boy of 15???? I'm sorry, but no matter what ur upbringing or background, at the age of 15 you certainly know that bullying someone, vandalasing their posessions and ultimately beating them to death is WRONG!! I am mother to a 5 year old boy and it scares me to bring him up in this day and age....a time where all that is around us is drugs, violence, weapons etc, it scares me to think what he could turn in to and if he does grow up to be a decent lad, will he be bullied for being decent?? A person's life no longer seems to have any meaning or value and something major needs to be done to get society back in order, otherwise what are the generations to come going to be living like???

Poor children??? POOR CHILDREN???? Poor children are those dying from famine in Africa.....not teenage thugs who kill innocent men, men who have struggled themselves through life with their disabilities. I totally agree with Claire....it is very similar to the Jamie Bulger case....using their position of superiority over a gentleman with severe learning difficulties to bully and harrass him quite literrally to death! And as much as I sympathise with his uncle and his efforts to pull Ryan from his grim existance with his so called mother, I do not care what any one says, a child of 4 or 5 may indeed copy thier pathetic excuses for parents and not know right from wrong, but a boy of 15???? I'm sorry, but no matter what ur upbringing or background, at the age of 15 you certainly know that bullying someone, vandalasing their posessions and ultimately beating them to death is WRONG!! I am mother to a 5 year old boy and it scares me to bring him up in this day and age....a time where all that is around us is drugs, violence, weapons etc, it scares me to think what he could turn in to and if he does grow up to be a decent lad, will he be bullied for being decent?? A person's life no longer seems to have any meaning or value and something major needs to be done to get society back in order, otherwise what are the generations to come going to be living like???

Poor children??? POOR CHILDREN???? Poor children are those dying from famine in Africa.....not teenage thugs who kill innocent men, men who have struggled themselves through life with their disabilities. I totally agree with Claire....it is very similar to the Jamie Bulger case....using their position of superiority over a gentleman with severe learning difficulties to bully and harrass him quite literrally to death! And as much as I sympathise with his uncle and his efforts to pull Ryan from his grim existance with his so called mother, I do not care what any one says, a child of 4 or 5 may indeed copy thier pathetic excuses for parents and not know right from wrong, but a boy of 15???? I'm sorry, but no matter what ur upbringing or background, at the age of 15 you certainly know that bullying someone, vandalasing their posessions and ultimately beating them to death is WRONG!! I am mother to a 5 year old boy and it scares me to bring him up in this day and age....a time where all that is around us is drugs, violence, weapons etc, it scares me to think what he could turn in to and if he does grow up to be a decent lad, will he be bullied for being decent?? A person's life no longer seems to have any meaning or value and something major needs to be done to get society back in order, otherwise what are the generations to come going to be living like???

Poor children??? POOR CHILDREN???? Poor children are those dying from famine in Africa.....not teenage thugs who kill innocent men, men who have struggled themselves through life with their disabilities. I totally agree with Claire....it is very similar to the Jamie Bulger case....using their position of superiority over a gentleman with severe learning difficulties to bully and harrass him quite literrally to death! And as much as I sympathise with his uncle and his efforts to pull Ryan from his grim existance with his so called mother, I do not care what any one says, a child of 4 or 5 may indeed copy thier pathetic excuses for parents and not know right from wrong, but a boy of 15???? I'm sorry, but no matter what ur upbringing or background, at the age of 15 you certainly know that bullying someone, vandalasing their posessions and ultimately beating them to death is WRONG!! I am mother to a 5 year old boy and it scares me to bring him up in this day and age....a time where all that is around us is drugs, violence, weapons etc, it scares me to think what he could turn in to and if he does grow up to be a decent lad, will he be bullied for being decent?? A person's life no longer seems to have any meaning or value and something major needs to be done to get society back in order, otherwise what are the generations to come going to be living like???

Poor children??? POOR CHILDREN???? Poor children are those dying from famine in Africa.....not teenage thugs who kill innocent men, men who have struggled themselves through life with their disabilities. I totally agree with Claire....it is very similar to the Jamie Bulger case....using their position of superiority over a gentleman with severe learning difficulties to bully and harrass him quite literrally to death! And as much as I sympathise with his uncle and his efforts to pull Ryan from his grim existance with his so called mother, I do not care what any one says, a child of 4 or 5 may indeed copy thier pathetic excuses for parents and not know right from wrong, but a boy of 15???? I'm sorry, but no matter what ur upbringing or background, at the age of 15 you certainly know that bullying someone, vandalasing their posessions and ultimately beating them to death is WRONG!! I am mother to a 5 year old boy and it scares me to bring him up in this day and age....a time where all that is around us is drugs, violence, weapons etc, it scares me to think what he could turn in to and if he does grow up to be a decent lad, will he be bullied for being decent?? A person's life no longer seems to have any meaning or value and something major needs to be done to get society back in order, otherwise what are the generations to come going to be living like???

lots of children have had poor upbringing, some worse than paylin, and dodd. did they humiliate, violate, and beat, and then murder a vunerable man? id like to hear from any adults who suffered as a child and now are decent human beings! i believe there are lots, wouldent even dream of becomming a murder even before they grow up. get real UNCLE!

lots of children have had poor upbringing, some worse than paylin, and dodd. did they humiliate, violate, and beat, and then murder a vunerable man? id like to hear from any adults who suffered as a child and now are decent human beings! i believe there are lots, wouldent even dream of becomming a murder even before they grow up. get real UNCLE!

lots of children have had poor upbringing, some worse than paylin, and dodd. did they humiliate, violate, and beat, and then murder a vunerable man? id like to hear from any adults who suffered as a child and now are decent human beings! i believe there are lots, wouldent even dream of becomming a murder even before they grow up. get real UNCLE!

lots of children have had poor upbringing, some worse than paylin, and dodd. did they humiliate, violate, and beat, and then murder a vunerable man? id like to hear from any adults who suffered as a child and now are decent human beings! i believe there are lots, wouldent even dream of becomming a murder even before they grow up. get real UNCLE!

lots of children have had poor upbringing, some worse than paylin, and dodd. did they humiliate, violate, and beat, and then murder a vunerable man? id like to hear from any adults who suffered as a child and now are decent human beings! i believe there are lots, wouldent even dream of becomming a murder even before they grow up. get real UNCLE!

To David, may you now find peace and contentment, away from your tormentors.
To the Friends of David, may you remember him in the good old days, my deepest sympathy lies with you.
To Davids family, i cannot begin to express the terrible hurt, you all must be feeling, console yourself in the thought that THEY cannot hurt him now, and they will now face there torment. my heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
To Davids daughter's, and grandchild, words cannot describe..but my heart goes out to you.
LASTLY, To Davids mother, and brother, my thoughts are with you, deepest sympathy, may each new day, bring a little less pain.
TO THE MONSTERS... may you suffer, as much as poor david!, and for eternity, just as davids family have to. I SPEAK FOR WARRINGTON'S MAJORITY.

To David, may you now find peace and contentment, away from your tormentors.
To the Friends of David, may you remember him in the good old days, my deepest sympathy lies with you.
To Davids family, i cannot begin to express the terrible hurt, you all must be feeling, console yourself in the thought that THEY cannot hurt him now, and they will now face there torment. my heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
To Davids daughter's, and grandchild, words cannot describe..but my heart goes out to you.
LASTLY, To Davids mother, and brother, my thoughts are with you, deepest sympathy, may each new day, bring a little less pain.
TO THE MONSTERS... may you suffer, as much as poor david!, and for eternity, just as davids family have to. I SPEAK FOR WARRINGTON'S MAJORITY.

To David, may you now find peace and contentment, away from your tormentors.
To the Friends of David, may you remember him in the good old days, my deepest sympathy lies with you.
To Davids family, i cannot begin to express the terrible hurt, you all must be feeling, console yourself in the thought that THEY cannot hurt him now, and they will now face there torment. my heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
To Davids daughter's, and grandchild, words cannot describe..but my heart goes out to you.
LASTLY, To Davids mother, and brother, my thoughts are with you, deepest sympathy, may each new day, bring a little less pain.
TO THE MONSTERS... may you suffer, as much as poor david!, and for eternity, just as davids family have to. I SPEAK FOR WARRINGTON'S MAJORITY.

To David, may you now find peace and contentment, away from your tormentors.
To the Friends of David, may you remember him in the good old days, my deepest sympathy lies with you.
To Davids family, i cannot begin to express the terrible hurt, you all must be feeling, console yourself in the thought that THEY cannot hurt him now, and they will now face there torment. my heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
To Davids daughter's, and grandchild, words cannot describe..but my heart goes out to you.
LASTLY, To Davids mother, and brother, my thoughts are with you, deepest sympathy, may each new day, bring a little less pain.
TO THE MONSTERS... may you suffer, as much as poor david!, and for eternity, just as davids family have to. I SPEAK FOR WARRINGTON'S MAJORITY.

To David, may you now find peace and contentment, away from your tormentors.
To the Friends of David, may you remember him in the good old days, my deepest sympathy lies with you.
To Davids family, i cannot begin to express the terrible hurt, you all must be feeling, console yourself in the thought that THEY cannot hurt him now, and they will now face there torment. my heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
To Davids daughter's, and grandchild, words cannot describe..but my heart goes out to you.
LASTLY, To Davids mother, and brother, my thoughts are with you, deepest sympathy, may each new day, bring a little less pain.
TO THE MONSTERS... may you suffer, as much as poor david!, and for eternity, just as davids family have to. I SPEAK FOR WARRINGTON'S MAJORITY.